Week 2 Notes
Week 2 Notes SPCM201
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Date Created: 01/29/16
Plato's "Gorgias" Sunday, January 24, 9:08 PM → What do we already know about Gorgias? ○ Best known Sophist ○ Improvisation - could speak on any topic for hours ○ One of the wealthiest Sophists ○ Spoke poetically ○ Statue made of gold - only for Athenian natives, but Gorgias had one → Gorgias ○ Originally from Sicily ○ Traveling lecturer - "sophist" ("wise man") § Taught how to be successful in civic and political life § Skeptical about the possibility of universal and absolute knowledge and Truth § No written handbook (learn about Sophists through other writings) ○ Lived to be -105 years old Speeches - given in the court, assemblies, and ceremonial (to praise or blame) → Three Speech Types (Discussed by Aristotle) ○ Deliberative - political speech (given in assemblies) ○ Judicial - legal speech (given in courts/trials) ○ Epideictic - ceremonial (eulogies, for entertainment) § Delivered in a home, or in the town, Polis, etc., eulogy - very big deal, speaker chosen very carefully → Gorgias' Works Wrote: ○ § "On Nature" …he claimed □ "Nothing exists" □ "If anything did exist, we could not know it" □ "If we could know that something existed, we would not be able to communicate it to anyone else." § Plato writes response to "On Nature" with "Gorgias" § "Encomium of Helen" □ Helen of Troy □ Considered the most beautiful woman, blamed for would not be able to communicate it to anyone else." § Plato writes response to "On Nature" with "Gorgias" § "Encomium of Helen" □ Helen of Troy □ Considered the most beautiful woman, blamed for the Trojan War - part of Greek mythology (Sparta vs. Troy) □ Legend says… ® Ancient city of Troy (across Aegean Sea) ® Built city walls to protect under attack ® Trojan War - continued for 10 years, built Trojan Horse (got inside the horse, pretended to sail away) - Greeks won the war by sneak attack □ 4 Reasons Why Helen is innocent (according to Gorgias) 1. Power of Speech - Helen was captivated by words 2. Fell in love - Helen fell in love with Prince Paris 3. Constrained by the divine - Gods held power over her 4. Violently taken/raped - could not protect herself a) Rapist is at fault for taking her;; Helen should be pitied rather than punished □ Gorgias - if you believe any of these reasons, Helen is proven innocent for the Trojan War → Lessons to be Learned- from Gorgias' Speech Structure ○ § Prooemium/Introduction § Narration § Proof/evidence § Epilogue/Conclusion § Poetic devices □ Antithesis □ Relied on metaphors ○ "There are two sides to every sto" dissoi logoi/arguing both sides ○ Different people involved in a situation can present different versions of the truth (countered the philosophers v- one Truth) ○ What would Plato Say? § The arts of poetry and argumentation only lead to confusion, tricking us into believing false visions of Truth → Quote of the Day ○ Rhetoric and language have the power to influence and there are always multiple perspectives of the truth and the situation ○ Gorgias - sophist who developed style of rhetoric contrary to Plato which held truth is relative and cannot be known which § The arts of poetry and argumentation only lead to confusion, tricking us into believing false visions of Truth → Quote of the Day ○ Rhetoric and language have the power to influence and there are always multiple perspectives of the truth and the situation ○ Gorgias - sophist who developed style of rhetoric contrary to Plato which held truth is relative and cannot be known which refuted the notion of divine Truth ○ "Speech is powerful tool" ○ Rhetoric can be the most influential factor when changing someone's mind → For Wednesday ○ Read Plato's Gorgias ○ Context: § Dialogue between Socrates, Gorgias, Callicles, and Polus § Argument: What is rhetoric? ○ Questions for consideration Who is debating whom in dialogue? § § What does Gorgias claim rhetoric to be? § How does Socrates describe rhetoric?
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