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The Apology and The Republic

by: Thomas nelson

The Apology and The Republic PHL 2008

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These notes cover the notes from the week of January 25th, 2016
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Date Created: 01/29/16
Thomas Nelson  Irony – When intended meaning is opposite of literal meaning  Dramatic Irony – When reader/audience knows more than character, rendering  character’s statement ironic  Socratic Irony – Feigning ignorance in order to draw others into convo or giving their  opinions  Socrates was charged for evildoing (corrupting the youth) and impiety (not believing in  the gods of the city)  Daimon – The “voice” in Socrates’ head that tells him he’s about to do something wrong  (conscience) o Did not come to him when he was going to his trial o This is the “new divinity of his own” that the jury said he was trying to make Plato’s Republic  Plato is writing about Socrates after he was executed (have to read between lines/esoteric  writing)  While Socrates is protagonist and an authoritative voice, the meaning of dialogue is never stated directly, it emerges from our engagement with dialogue; reading it is supposed to  “corrupt” us to make us into philosophers by drawing us into wonder, questioning, and  examining  Cephalus’ definition of justice – Speaking the truth and repaying one’s debts  Polemarchus’ definition of justice – Benefit friends and harm enemies  Thrasymachus’ definition of justice – Advantage of the stronger/authority  Cephalus says old age is good because you have peace of mind and get rest o Lose interest in sex → the urge stops driving us crazy o Money is a comfort in old age, but it isn’t the difference between happiness and  unhappiness o It isn’t money that makes us happy, but our desires that make us unhappy because they disorder our soul → If you want something too badly, you make bad  decisions o When we get old, we begin to worry about the lives we have lived and the stories  we were told as children  Will we be rewarded or punished? (Heaven or hell?)  The way we have lived is very important  Socrates’ objection to Cephalus’ claims o Ex: Returning a weapon to a madman o Ex: Returning money to a drunk Thomas Nelson o Justice is too rigid o Normally, you should do the right thing, however, if the consequences are bad, a  good motive might lead us to lie or withhold truth in order to bring about a good  outcome or avoid a bad one  Cephalus then leaves to make a sacrifice to the gods (maybe a bribe to them?) and hands  the convo over to his son, Polemarchus


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