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Intro to Philosophy: Greek Foundations Notes Week Ten

by: Kaitlyn Gendron

Intro to Philosophy: Greek Foundations Notes Week Ten Philosophy 10200

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These notes cover what was gone over in class during week ten, and also the text readings that were assigned for homework.
Introduction to Philosophy Greek Foundations
Prof. Robert Klee
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Date Created: 04/11/16
Intro To Philosophy Greek Foundations Notes Week Ten  There is no evidence historical Socrates would believe in the existence of transcendent Forms  Eidos = Idea = Forms  Metaphysics- 600 years after death of Socrates  The Metaphysics are a compilations of loose pages of Aristotle’s works about very general things which happened to be placed after the works of the Physics o It is somewhat like an editorial  Platonic forms are not inside of the mind o You can only have knowledge of what never changes  Platonic view: It participates in the ‘Form of Tigerhood’ But, each earthly tiger is an imperfect tiger. Only the form of tigerhood itself is completely and perfectly “tigerish” Book 1 of the Republic was written 20-30 years before the rest of the book. One can tell by the different writing styles Glacon and Ademantus were Plato’s real brothers that he wrote into the work Socrates, Polemachus, and Thrasymachus all argued what made a person just (not good) o Throughout the book they try out different theories to prove what makes a person just They conclude for a short time that ‘justice is the interest of the stronger party’ o This is known as the oldest theory of justice on record Socrates eventually ends up refuting all of these theories, destroying them one by one o He believes it is easier to detect what justice is the bigger the society is-not on an individual scale o In the grand scheme of things today it is thought that it would be easier to understand when scaling down vs. scaling up Book Two – Society as a Whole Plato wrote a Utopia – most see it as a Dystopia however It is considered Plato’s masterpiece (The Republic) o It is dramatic and well-written The Elenchus is gone – no more Q and A, he is telling you how it is His rankings of the best forms of government are as follows: o Aristocracy- rule by “the best” suited to rule o Oligarchy- rule by the few (the rich) o Timocracy – Gov’t rule o Democracy – People rule o Tyranny- Tyrant/Dictator rule He claimed that justice is a ‘proper division of labor’ In his Utopia the three social/class levels are: o 1.) Guardians- (Smallest group) Must undergo 35 years of training, must be un-corruptible o 2.) Warriors- (Medium/Small group) Could be a man or a woman o 3.) Artisan- (Largest group) Never called peasants, these people are respected as the crafts-workers of society, and the upper classes acknowledge that they would not exist without these people Information about Guardians: They are professionally trained leaders Guardianship cannot be inherited Guardians decide who your ‘mate’ could be o No love marriages o They did this in order to attempt to ‘breed’ traits that aren’t imprinted in your DNA (like personality traits and skills) o Sex is controlled by the Guardians o After giving birth, you are separated from your child and you never find out who they are o Children are raised in Communal nurserys o Every adult over a certain age is a child’s mom or dad  Every child under a certain age is your son or daughter o Plato believed that the nuclear family caused psychological torture Guardians don’t even own their clothing o They have nothing to sell so they can’t acquire money and be corruptible Guardians have a complete censorship of music and literature, they can control anything that they may believe could corrupt the public  There is less ‘self-discipline’ as one goes down the class ‘ranks’


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