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August Notes, Week 1 and 2

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August Notes, Week 1 and 2 CC 303

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Notes from the month of August.
Intro to Classical Mytholog
Steve Lundy
Class Notes
Classical, mythology, Introduction
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This 5 page Class Notes was uploaded by Ava Thomaston on Tuesday September 13, 2016. The Class Notes belongs to CC 303 at University of Texas at Austin taught by Steve Lundy in Fall 2016. Since its upload, it has received 45 views. For similar materials see Intro to Classical Mytholog in Classical Mythology at University of Texas at Austin.


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Date Created: 09/13/16
August 26  Icarus narrative o Icarus and Daedalus decided they had to get away but it was hard. Daedalus fashioned wings. Icarus is warned not to fly too close to the sun but he couldn’t resist. o Wax melted and he fell to his death o Exemplary for the idea of youthful talent that gets ahead of itself. o Subtype of hero who is far too convinced that he’s talented and gets ahead of himself o Avengers reversal with Iron Man taking the bomb away.  Daedalus and the limits of technology o Frazer: Ancients could control the natural cycles of the earth by the sacrifice of a key individual in the community.  These were reborn (Dionysas?)  Myths are interpretive (moral, narratological, technology, religious, psychological) o Think about if your interpretation fits the myth or if you’re making it fit. August 30  117 AD – Roman map at the time of Tragen(?) when Rome was dominant power. We consider this to be the space that we consider to be effected by classical civilization.  Distinction between Roman and Greek. o All Roman areas adopted Latin language o Not talking about Greece but Greek civilization which included the west coast of Asia minor and south coast of Italy (Greater Greece). o Alexander the Great Hellenistic culture (200 BC)- took away from Greek culture.  Greek civilization: o Archaic period – Homer and Hesiod o Classical – philosophy of Plato, Socrates, etc o Hellenistic Period  Roman periods: o Roman begins with exiling of Kings (Roman principate) o Ends at 410  Homer and Hesiod brought the cannon of the Olympic deities. Central in their poems and invented literacy.  410 AD – sack of Rome (first) brought serious upheaval and thought to signify the end of Classics. o Romans who worshiped pre Christian, Roman, gods said it was because of the Christians o St. Augustine said it was because human kind is not united in Christian worship. 2  We want to observe that these myths don’t happen in a vacuum. o Socio-economic (poor, wealthy) o Political o Cultural (demonstrate learning?)  Augustus came into power while the Roman empire was collapsing. o When Julius Caesar named him o Successful in defeating Mark Antony o 44 BC was his year o Political, Religious, etc.. changes. o Died in 14 AD. His legacy lasted for hundreds of years  Ovid is born 43 BC and knew nothing but Civil War and Augustus o Starts as Romantic, becomes playful (we don’t know how serious) o Exiled by Augustus o Completed the art of love- how to have affairs (especially) after Augustus had penalties for affairs.  We look at Historical and Evaluative labels o Classical – belonging to the first class (highest class) NOT the proletarian one. o In classical myth – we’re making a judgment to if it belongs to the highest class.  Etymology – look at work and pry it apart.  Mythology – mythos (word, speech, story) logos (discourse or study) 3 o To greeks and romans were symbols o Now it’s very particular to modern period and intellectual and cultural associations o Another definition (original) - Myth contains important info that can provide useful facts for the person interpreting. o One definition (very different, modern) - Widespread but untrue erroneous story (fiction) o Early mythographers came up with 2 strategies for understanding myth in human imagination  Some cling to it being a falsehood (obsession with it is primitive)  Myth is important to human mindset (dismissing it loses something fundamental to human experience) o Our definition – traditional story containing foundational, primordial, sacred and theomorphic elements.  Traditional – hand over or pass down (myths exist prior to literacy). No definitive version (may be different emphasis based on who’s telling it). Stories (narratives with plots, characters, etc).  Foundational – aetiological -> establishes how something came to be in the present. Provides us with foundations of cities (Romulus and Remus in Rome).  Primordial – refer to distant past, even beginning of time and cosmos.  Sacred - gods, heros, founders, places and things. Tell us what is sacred and profane. 4 Associations with ritual and cult. What is wrong or taboo.  Theomorphic – primarily interested in the personality and behavior of gods. Frequently embody natural phenomena, social and psychological process and abstract ideas. o Reubens uses myth to relate idea of peace with Minerva protecting the paxs. 5


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