10/3/16 class notes
10/3/16 class notes ENC3201
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Date Created: 10/03/16
ENC3021 Class notes 910/3 Enlightenment Christianity has a huge influence on how people thinking about rhetoric o Classical rhetoric was pagon- deals with probably knowledge Relies on reason to generate knowledge o In Christianity, knowledge comes from god, therefore is absolute Direct knowledge comes from revelation- we don’t reason our way towards it o Christianity divorces rhetoric from discovering knowledge o Rhetoric is left with proselytizing, extremely persuasive o Role of rhetoric changes because way knowledge is viewed changes Private vs. public communication o Middle ages and early renaissance, rhetoric is based on preaching and letter writing Now private communication falls under rhetoric in addition to public Rhetoric gets opened up to women in ways it hasn’t been before Women discovering more ways to communicate publically o Dorothy Lee- The Mother’s Blessing Ramus o Rethinks connection between dialectic and rhetoric o Takes invention and arrangement (reason) away from rhetoric and makes it solely the work of dialectic Dialectic helps us find the truth and deal with probably knowledge Rhetoric deals with delivery o Devalues rhetoric Nothing to do with how you create the message o Because of Christianity, we no longer need dialectic to discover truth o Empiricism vs rhetoric No way rhetoric can get us knowledge as precise as empiricism can (science) o Rhetoric=way to communicate what we already learned Locke o Rhetoric becomes complicated because of language Language is an imprecise way to communicate o Rhetoric becomes separated from knowledge-making and relegated only to style and delivery o Christianity->dialectic->empiricism o 3 types of ideas modes moral ideas primarily dependant on substances bringing together multiple ideas of the same type example of building o a series of rooms is an apartment o combining the idea of the same types of things into a whole Mixed modes o Ideas that we are combining are not of the same type o Patriotism- the different ideas that we combine to get the larger idea of patriotism does not have all the same building blocks (ideas about country, people, actions) Substances o In order to understand knowledge and create knowledge, we have to understand how we know, and how knowledge is created o Language/words stand in for an idea How we record ideas to ourselves or communicate them to other people conveys a set of ideas from one person to another idea=mental perception of something simple ideas=ideas that cannot be broken down into other simple ideas o e.g. sweet complex idea=lots of ideas put together o e.g. apple Problem: what if someone’s idea is different from your idea? The only thing you can actually know is your own idea o E.g. the word “table” creates a different idea for everyone o Usually ideas are close enough that we can understand what people are talking about, but when we talk about abstract complicated ideas, it’s harder to be precise We can get as close to an idea, but no one’s ideas are going to be exactly the same Ideas are formed from experiences Direct- from senses Indirect- from in your mind No two people’s collection of experiences are identical, therefore no one’s ideas are ever identical The more precise and consistent we are in language, the less miscommunication No one usually takes the time to be that precise in their language There is no natural connection between the idea and the word used to explain it Who has authority to say what words signify? o There’s not really a way to decide whether a word means one thing or another o Group consensus over time that a word means one thing or another There are a lot of words that mean roughly, but not exactly, the same thing We can be talking about similar ideas but not recognize that we are talking about similar experiences o Knowledge is not innate No truth, no fundamental knowledge we all have access to Everything we know comes from experiences Ideas are mental configurations of our experiences o Our capacity to create and experience ideas is innate Our capacity to create knowledge from ideas and interpret experiences o Goal is to clear away miscommunication of language so we can generate more knowledge o Miscommunications in language allows us to be more generous Be generous in the way that others think they are understanding you o Religious toleration Religious views should all be universally clear
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