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Psych and Religion week 3

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Psych and Religion week 3 Psych 80A

Elyse Villanueva

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These notes cover Journey to the East and views from Carl Jung.
Psych and Religion
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Date Created: 10/13/16
October 11 ­life is a story of the self realization of the unconscious ­everything in the unconscious seeks outward manifestation ­Jung says that he cannot employ science to trace process of growth of himself. ­He doesn’t want to see himself entirely in the lenses of science ­only be expressed by way of myth ­myth expresses life more precisely than science. ­Psyche­ology: spirit/soul knowledge ­Jung is a soul psychologist more than science ­people developed two different paths: logos and mythos ­logos:path of knowledge and truth, to function well in day to day life. Logical, what we know  must be seen and measured. Rational and practical knowledge. ­Freud and Skinner see logos as the only way to see things. ­mythos: the truth of mythos is felt in the blood. The truths of mythos are concerned with the  timeless and meaningful. Looks to the origin of life and deepest levels of human mind. ­mythos often springs from the unconscious ­consider what we know about the moon, we know many numbers and figures and science of  the moon.( logos) ­There is more to the moon than numbers and science. Living in a word with just science is like  living in a house with just scaffolding. There is no true meaning. ­mythos is more subjective, private, and personal. ­the moon has always exerted a dark, mysterious influence on our lives. ­The moon has been involved in many rituals. ­Aztec moon legends, amish moon lore, ect.. ­To Jung, we are complex and fascinating. ­Our waking unconscious is only one form, it exists as an island in the vast sea of  unconsciousness. ­Jung talks about horizontal and vertical dimension of existence. ­Horizontal(also called zoom) develops in us because we always have day to day practical  demands of life. ­vertical cuts across horizontal, extends high and deep. ­Realm of depth and meaning in our lives. Realm of magic and poetry. ­when you are in the vertical, horizontal time stops. ­Upper vertical: near death experience, spiritual experience, peak experience, and creative flow ­Dark vertical: dreams, nightmares, shadow experience, and psychosis(insanity) ­we have to make peace with the horizontal  ­Jung doesn’t want us to be limited to logos though. ­ we owe it to ourselves to explore our unconscious ­ Jung was once talking to a schizophrenic patient who said, “ If you shut your eyes halfway and look at the sun, you can see the sun’s phallus. And when you move your head side to side, it  moves and that is the origin of wind.” ­one of cult vision greek mythology books explained that the origin of wind comes from a tube  hanging from the sun. ­Jung looked into the patient’s background and the patient had no encounter with the book or  any greek mythology. ­This caused Jung to believe that his patient was touching his unconscious. ­collective unconscious: which contains our most ancient mythic knowledges and truths. ­4 sources of Jung’s theories 1) Jung was interested in dreams, the royal road to the unconscious. Dreams come  directly from the unconscious. If you study dreams for a lifetime, it forms a perfect  mandela. If you are extraverted and dominating in real life, a figure in your dream might  compensate and be quiet to bring balance. 2) Own and patient’s creative output. When you can let yourself deep down into  creative flow, you get in touch with your unconscious. 3) He took seriously the utterance of psychotic patients and continuously read  ancient texts and myths, looking for correspondence. 4) Jung had visions and saw things. ­Some saw him breaking into a psychosis. He saw his “psychosis” as a good thing, as long as  he came back to ordinary consciousness. ­whole developmental life process is a spiritual journey called individuation. ­individuation involves the encounter with and integration of recognizable developmental  markers which he called personality archetypes. ­all humans go through these versions ­archetype is apart of our collective unconscious. ­like a dry well that we fill up with our own unconscious. ­The ego and persona are the archetypes that are essential in navigating the horizontal. ­Jung says if you look into the eyes of a baby, you are looking into the soul of that baby. Babies  are wide open but no one stays that way. ­we must individuate to begin psychic archetypes. ­ability to control and manipulate in the world is a huge developmental marker. ­grows correspondingly with the baby’s “I”ness, sense of ego. ­ego is sense of consistency, able to choose direction and autonomy.(forms early) ­Ego becomes center of consciousness. Ego contains mental functions like planning and  focusing, and thinking. ­Also contains physical functions like speech, control, and manipulation. ­ego is when we start to separate ourselves from our unconscious. ­the ego is threatened by unconscious, scary dreams and scary tendencies. So our ego shoves  those awful thoughts away. ­the persona( archetype of consciousness) helps us adapt. Persona is our social self. If you  dream that you are naked, your persona is underdeveloped and you fear of being socially  naked. ­Contains our values and social attitudes. ­we can overidentify with personas and get stuck ­personas are social masks ­ and underdeveloped persona is just as bad  as overidentification ­the persona is the conformity archetype but can easily be dangerous ­If one overtakes persona, what happens to the rest of the personality? They are shoved behind us ­the “behind us” area is called the shadow ­the bad areas is not necessarily us but we use a lot of energy in order to avoid being those  traits. ­the more over identified with persona, the more chance there is to be overtaken by shadow ­the shadow contains our childhood wounds and traumas, our addictions, humiliations, shame,  guilt, rage, insecurities, and inferiorities ­we need to confront our shadows to become human ­every human must cast a shadow, must have dark side to become whole. ­the shadow is full of energy and potential for creativity. ­the shadow is the part we need to get through for transformation ­it is the path to balance. October 13 ­Jung says we either feel comfortable facing the world or facing away from the world. (Extravert  or introvert) ­Extroverts get energy from other people ­Introverts are territorial, they need their space. ­Introverts feel tired after party and extroverts feel energized ­Introverts know their minds very well ­we rely primarily on our senses or our other perceiving function which is intuition. (sense or  intuition) ­senses are realistic, terrestrial, interested in details and facts. They are more concerned with  what is feasible in the present. ­Intuitives are extraterrestrial, they rely more on feeling. ­Intuition is knowing something without being able to explain why we know it. ­Intuitives take the world in by the unconscious. ­Decision making functions, we rely primarily on our thinking or feeling. ­Thinkers like to use objective, rational, and impersonal basis. Invokes principles and rules in  pursuit of truth. ­pure thinkers always head to logic for answers. ­Thinkers are not interested in feelings, thinkers have as many feelings as feelers but are less  concerned with them. ­Feeling types, their highest value is harmony and relationships. ­Feeling types make decisions based off feelings. ­Which do you have a strong preference to, judgement function or perceiving function? ­perceiving type have fun and are carefree. ­Don’t want to be forced to make a decision and hate deadlines. ­Judgements are the types to have a paper done a week early, they like knowing what is  happening and love schedules. ­They are good workers and love structure. ­perceivers are very good at having fun ­Herman Hesse was in therapy with Carl Jung, very influenced by Jung. ­Journey to the East has a very Jungian view. ­Journey to the East is about individuation, coming to self hood. ­ the book is an extended metaphor about Herman Hesse’s life. ­Both the character in the book and Herman were musicians who sold their violin and felt as if  he was stuck in the shadow. ­It is a story about remembrance and yearning for a magical time that was lost. Also about  recovery of magic and music at the very end. ­about servant named Leo, Leo represents some part of Hesse’s personality. Leo has some sort of magical part. ­It is ultimately about the healthy development of the individual towards a balanced unified self  aware and creative life. ­It ultimately means coming to selfhood/ self realization ­getting to final archetype.. The self. ­It’s about completing the circle ( self > ego > persona > shadow > psych functioning and  attitude > the self) ­the self is archetype of order and integration ­consciousness and unconsciousness are no longer in opposition to one another but  complement each other to form an integrated totality which is the self. ­we were once the self, as a baby, but then we formed ego to analyze and discriminate. This  takes us out of the vertical into the horizontal, then we formed persona, and then shadow. ­In individuation we must face shadow. ­Then after figuring out our shadow we find more about ourselves( if we extroverted or  introverted, judgement or perceiving…) and come to terms with these characteristics. ­Then we must circle back to self which is last archetype ­Jung says religion can be more than a system of belief, you can have your own powerful  religious experience whereas it is no longer a question of belief, you just know. ­sometimes you can obtain it within a lifetime or you can experience it in one earth shattering  moment. ­what allows you to perceive the higher unknown? It has to do with intuition ­The intuition that makes it more primitive. ­intuition is our source of our hunches and inspiration, where magical work comes from. ­Intuitive eye that allows us to see when we are thrown into the vertical. ­the eyes that Leo(journey to the east) sees in is intuitive eyes. Leo might represent the deep  self. ­Intuitive eye is best for seeing far and deep, it is the ancient eye and discerns mythos. ­We have lost touch with the old days and our unconscious. ­greatest source of alienation is that we are cut off from old rituals. ­bollingen: tower, Jung spent  time in this tower with no electricity or running water. These  simple acts make men simple. Jung lived modestly in nature. ­For Jung there are two sisters of soul, silence and solitude. ­If you want to naturally explore the vertical, go into silence and solitude.


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