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Socrates' Argument

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Socrates' Argument PHIL 20438

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These notes cover Socrates' argument for justice
Ancient Philosophy
Michele Anik Stanbury
Class Notes
Socrates, philosophy




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This 1 page Class Notes was uploaded by Cindy Lee on Wednesday April 6, 2016. The Class Notes belongs to PHIL 20438 at University of Notre Dame taught by Michele Anik Stanbury in Spring 2016. Since its upload, it has received 8 views. For similar materials see Ancient Philosophy in PHIL-Philosophy at University of Notre Dame.


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Date Created: 04/06/16
Cindy Lee Professor Stanbury PHIL 20438 15 February 2016 Question: Is it worse to be treated unjustly, or to act unjustly? (1) It is worse to be treated unjustly than to act unjustly. (2) It is uglier to act unjustly than to be treated unjustly. (3) The beautiful and the good are not the same; likewise, the ugly and the unjust are not the  same. Socrates’ refutation: (4) Beautiful things (bodies, complexions, postures, etc.) are beautiful when they fit some  purpose, when they give pleasure, or both; the same can be said for music and laws. (5) It follows that ugly is the opposite of beauty just as painful and evil are the opposite  of pleasure and good. (6) When something is more beautiful than something else, it either exceeds in pleasure, benefit,  or both; similarly, when something is uglier, it exceeds in pain, evil, or both. (7) Therefore, based on 2&6: If it is uglier to act unjustly than to be treated unjustly, then  acting unjustly must be more painful, more evil, or both.  (8) Acting unjustly does not exceed in pain than being treated unjustly. (9) Therefore, based on 8: Acting unjustly must exceed in evil than being treated unjustly. Final Conclusion: It is worse to act unjustly than to be treated unjustly.


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