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BIOL 210: Microbiology
San Francisco State University

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Rated 3.8/5

Average Class Difficulty

3.2/5

Rated moderate

Average Grade

B

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BIOL 210 Microbiology is an Engineering course at SFSU taught by the following professor: Brinda Govindan.
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  • Class rating 5/5
    Just checked my grade and I got an A-. You do not need to read everything. Just wait for the essay question and read to write it. I got 0s on all the quizzes, but I did the extra credit to make up for that. Easy grader. Pretty easy A. He's very organized, and repeats the core concepts over and over. This class was at 8 am, which is why I missed so many. -) Do the readings and cite them in your essays. Straight forward and very fair. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Just checked my grade A-. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    This was such an easy class there are two speeches the entire semester and no tests. There is a good amount of homework that is based on the book but its really easy and as long as you do all the classwork and speeches you will pass. He can be somewhat rude I went to speak with him and he wouldn't help me but i don't really care since I got an A. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    u to take it seriously- she wants everyone to do well. 4 MC tests and gave everyone the opportunity to do an extra credit paper. She gave many exact questions on the final as on the other tests. If u study, u should be able to get an A. you have to study what she tells you though. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    She is not a friendly person and she thinks she is better than everybody else. Only thing she can do is read the word to word from her PPT. She is so unorganized! She even doesn? t know what is on her own teaching plan! She seems does not know that much about the topic that she has probably been teaching for years in SFSU. She is a monotone and can? t pronounce words that is her topic! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    The WORST teacher in SFSU! She is kind of immature with her attitude not very professional if you ask me. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    She's a cool teacher. She basically READS off her slides. No extra information included. She sucks bad. This class was sooo boring!! REPEAT: BORING!!!!! You DON'T LEARN anything and she cracks LAME jokes. WARNING: AVOID TAKING HER CLASS! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    SHe straight up don't know what she is talking about. Attendance is mandatory which sucks. However, her tests are very tricky. You have to really read the question. Its worded a different way. And the lecture notes are useless. You have to actually read the book. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    She is a great teacher. If the lowest score is on the test prior to the final the final counts twice. lowest score is the final then the final counts once. Exams are half multiple chose and half short answer. Everything in lecture are in exam. The class was basically listen, take notes look over them, ace the exam. Then repeat that 4 times during the semester and you should get an A. Online hw is super easy and helps a lot. Quizzes though are kind of difficult compared to the exam. I don't know why a lot of people are saying this class is hard since it's not. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Great professor. She really has a passion for the subject and it comes across in her lectures. This was my first serious science class in college, so I went to her office hours frequently and she was so helpful. If you understand everything on the study guide, you will get an A. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Shes a great teacher. There are also surprise assignments in class and missing a few of those can really affect your grade. Tests are half written and half multiple choice. Pretty good class overall. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Show up to class and do your homework and you are guaranteed at least a B, but will probably get an A. Govindan is an awesome lecturer and class is not boring. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    The class was easy. very good teacher! I've taken her lab (bio 211) with her at the same time and she is a lot better than the other lab teachers. her exams are base on lecture so you rarely use the book. She also gives study guides which helps a lot! Go to class. Read the lecture notes. I had trouble in this class, but still got a B-. Tests were detailed, do extra credit if possible. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Teacher is very friendly and very informative. She makes us use Learnsmart (online), which is pretty useful for studying. Her exams are pretty tough too, but if you do the study guides and go to her lectures, you'll do pretty well on the tests. She has random pop quizzes in class, but you can do them with a partner. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    I would recommend going to class and browsing over the book every once and a while. The material in the class itself, I feel, is somewhat confusing, but if you ask questions and listen very carefully to her detailed lectures, it'll be easy to understand. But I recommend at least going over it twice before the next lecture. Test is half mc and half short answer and pretty challenging. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Very good teacher who knows her stuff. she is well informed and VERY well organized. follow her lecture outlines AND take notes. it's important to go to class but WELL worth your time for being there. tests are hard if you don't study, but if you've been to class and know the material it's hard to fail. take the class, you wont regret it! You do have to study (but... this should be the point of Uni, right&#63) The class is interesting and there are a lot of examples from real life. Definitely worth gettin up early -) ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    ATTENDANCE MANDITORY, graded on in class quiz that aren't announced.4 exams including the final,she drops the lowest exam score. She was passionate about micro, so when she was lecturing, everything was very organized and clear. She's a great teacher, I highly recommend her. I'm a pre-nursing major and my grade was so dependent on this class: pulled off an A with countless flashcards and a study group. really interesting, make sure you go to class so you get a real understanding of course material. Really interesting, and a great lecturer. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    clear and organized during lectures. She is hard if you don't go to the class. I recommend if you take her that you go to every class cause every midterm is made up of the notes she gives during her lectures. The tests aren't hard as long as you attend class and take ALL the notes. I recommend her! Assignments are easy, tests are straightforward. She is an awesome lady. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Govindan is a tough professor and teaches a pretty tough subject. The class is hard if you don't go to or pay attention in class. I'm a pre-nursing major and I had an okay time in this class. Do extra credit when she offers it and stay on top of online assignments. You'll be okay :) Because of her I have developed a whole new passion for microbiology! She covers the material very well and is super helpful if you see her in her office hours. She prepares you for her exams as well, just go to class. If you do poorly you have no one to blame but yourself. I am not a morning person, but she made 8am fun! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Best teacher ever :) Take the time to talk to her if you need help, and ask questions whenever you're confused. I think the above critics didn't do so well because they didn't study enough for the class, which is fairly challenging to begin with. Usually I do not like Biology but she made it interesting whenever I had extra questions, she would answer them. She is very knowledgeable. She is fair on her tests because I overheard a student complain that he made a mistake and asked the professor went and ask him the material and he knew it. Her tests are no ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    very detailed. pay attention and take good notes during class, and study lecture notes for midterms and final. attendance isn't mandatory, but attending class will make your life easier, exams are based off of lecture. offers some extra credit. wonderful professor, totally recommend her! Lecture is clear, she is very detailed. take notes on everything. after an hour, it could get boring. 3 midterms and one final. a few quizzes and a lot of readings. lab was fun, a lot of work though for only one unit. gives quizzes often, checks lab book progress twice, group project, attendance. key: study & memorize! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    I was in her lecture and lab. she tests were soley based on her lecture outlines. as long as you pay attention and print out the outlines, you can totally get an A ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Brinda is a wonderful teacher. She is one of the nicest professers thus far. Study weeks in advance it WILL help, don't miss lecture if you aren't accustomed to this subject She's a bit monotoned but you'll get used to it. I actually learned a lot from this class and the info is helpful in many ways in your everyday life. I got a B+ and i'm damn proud of it ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    What a GREAT teacher. Felt as if she knew what she was talking about. Go to class for extra points. Study guides were very helpful, but she was about critical thinking to get to the answers. She gives you the tools to figure out a question, but not the answer itself. Tests were pretty decent, especially if you put in the effort to study. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She is an amazing teacher. Clear cut on everything. Go to her office hours and she'll help out tremendously. I can sit through her lectures and feel bad if I miss a class. She is always there to help you if you pursue it. I can't think of anything negative about her. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She's a really good teacher, very organized, and lectures are very detailed and fast. Attend her office hours because you are not going to understand. Please do not take if it's not for your major. There's 3 midterms, and 1 final. Try to do all the extra credit she gives out. Her exams are all conceptual so studying is a must. Go to class and take down notes and you should do fine. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    This class was ok. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Dr. Govindan is really great, honestly. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    I had Dr. Govindan for both lecture and lab and although her tests and quizzes are rather difficult, if you go to class and take good notes, you should be able to pass her tests without any problems. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    This class is very interesting, just extremely hard. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    the best class i have ever taken @ sfstate. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    This professor is a great professor. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    This is one of the best classes I have ever taken. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    all of her lectures were clear and interesting. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Make sure you go to class EVERY time and pay attention even though it means being there at 8 in the morning. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    She knows her subject material and is very friendly and down to earth. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    Vital things students should know: STUDY GUIDES ARE NOTHING LIKE EXAMS, SO MUCH READING, SO MUCH HOMEWORK. GO TO LECTURE! Basically her notes are the test. Know your stuff and you will be fine! She gives extra credit and does online quizzes, so if you aren't lazy and put in a moderate amount of work you will be fine. I recommend her :) Hard to pay attention at 8 in the morning. Gives extra credit, online homework, 3 test, 1 final. Note test are super hard, and based on lecture. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    She is an okay teacher, she really knows her stuff. fully understand what she lectures in class and you will ace the exams.the readings only take up a few questions on the exams. grading scale is a bit curved. she seems intimidating when u approach her so i always email her. ** the new Learnsmart online work is a pain in the butt. Be prepared to live in uncertainty and not know your grade the whole sem because she doesn't use ilearn to update grades. You wont pass if you dont show up because her lectures are heavy and makes you do random flashcards to see if youre there ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    She is a great teacher, you just have to pay attention in class. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    exams are based on in-class notes so go to class and take good notes. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    She seems to know her material however, cannot answer questions students have. Her tests are always unpredictable and she doesnt offer much outside help. Her lectures are so boring that usually half the class will fall asleep or not go anymore. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    She crams a lot into lectures and most of the time it doesnt make sense. The class is difficult and she does not grade on a curve. You will write 4+ pages of notes a class, but depend on your book cause they wont make sense anyway. I will say I learned a lot, but not worth it. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    Crams as much as possible into lectures, lacks organization, lecture notes are online but not helpful, tests difficult (class average always 60-64%). ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    stay on track if you take him ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    If you're a computer science major, ---->DO NOT TAKE SOSNICK<-----. His curriculum is too easy, which ends up costing you in CSC220. He hands out A's like candy, so don't expect to have 220 in the bag if this course is a piece of cake. If you aren't a CS major, take this class because it's an absolute joke and an easy A. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She is such a nice professor I highly recommended. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    Everything was in the book and if you missed just one thing then it's going to haunt you. Same thing with the in class films and presentations. The group work was pointless rather than just a lecture base class it was also group base which is useless unless someone from the group has something to say about the content. Just feed us content instead. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    She is wonderful! She really knows what she's talking about and she makes everyone to participate even though you do not want to. Her class is pretty interesting and she really makes you think and you learn so many things. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She gives helpful lectures and power points. Homework before lecture days. She even posts study guides online for exams. It is easy to get an A if you study a lot before the exams. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Dope I would definitely take his class again ...Continue reading

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  • Class rating 5/5
    Just checked my grade and I got an A-. You do not need to read everything. Just wait for the essay question and read to write it. I got 0s on all the quizzes, but I did the extra credit to make up for that. Easy grader. Pretty easy A. He's very organized, and repeats the core concepts over and over. This class was at 8 am, which is why I missed so many. -) Do the readings and cite them in your essays. Straight forward and very fair. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Just checked my grade A-. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    This was such an easy class there are two speeches the entire semester and no tests. There is a good amount of homework that is based on the book but its really easy and as long as you do all the classwork and speeches you will pass. He can be somewhat rude I went to speak with him and he wouldn't help me but i don't really care since I got an A. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    u to take it seriously- she wants everyone to do well. 4 MC tests and gave everyone the opportunity to do an extra credit paper. She gave many exact questions on the final as on the other tests. If u study, u should be able to get an A. you have to study what she tells you though. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    She is not a friendly person and she thinks she is better than everybody else. Only thing she can do is read the word to word from her PPT. She is so unorganized! She even doesn? t know what is on her own teaching plan! She seems does not know that much about the topic that she has probably been teaching for years in SFSU. She is a monotone and can? t pronounce words that is her topic! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    The WORST teacher in SFSU! She is kind of immature with her attitude not very professional if you ask me. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    She's a cool teacher. She basically READS off her slides. No extra information included. She sucks bad. This class was sooo boring!! REPEAT: BORING!!!!! You DON'T LEARN anything and she cracks LAME jokes. WARNING: AVOID TAKING HER CLASS! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    SHe straight up don't know what she is talking about. Attendance is mandatory which sucks. However, her tests are very tricky. You have to really read the question. Its worded a different way. And the lecture notes are useless. You have to actually read the book. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    She is a great teacher. If the lowest score is on the test prior to the final the final counts twice. lowest score is the final then the final counts once. Exams are half multiple chose and half short answer. Everything in lecture are in exam. The class was basically listen, take notes look over them, ace the exam. Then repeat that 4 times during the semester and you should get an A. Online hw is super easy and helps a lot. Quizzes though are kind of difficult compared to the exam. I don't know why a lot of people are saying this class is hard since it's not. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Great professor. She really has a passion for the subject and it comes across in her lectures. This was my first serious science class in college, so I went to her office hours frequently and she was so helpful. If you understand everything on the study guide, you will get an A. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Shes a great teacher. There are also surprise assignments in class and missing a few of those can really affect your grade. Tests are half written and half multiple choice. Pretty good class overall. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Show up to class and do your homework and you are guaranteed at least a B, but will probably get an A. Govindan is an awesome lecturer and class is not boring. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    The class was easy. very good teacher! I've taken her lab (bio 211) with her at the same time and she is a lot better than the other lab teachers. her exams are base on lecture so you rarely use the book. She also gives study guides which helps a lot! Go to class. Read the lecture notes. I had trouble in this class, but still got a B-. Tests were detailed, do extra credit if possible. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Teacher is very friendly and very informative. She makes us use Learnsmart (online), which is pretty useful for studying. Her exams are pretty tough too, but if you do the study guides and go to her lectures, you'll do pretty well on the tests. She has random pop quizzes in class, but you can do them with a partner. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    I would recommend going to class and browsing over the book every once and a while. The material in the class itself, I feel, is somewhat confusing, but if you ask questions and listen very carefully to her detailed lectures, it'll be easy to understand. But I recommend at least going over it twice before the next lecture. Test is half mc and half short answer and pretty challenging. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Very good teacher who knows her stuff. she is well informed and VERY well organized. follow her lecture outlines AND take notes. it's important to go to class but WELL worth your time for being there. tests are hard if you don't study, but if you've been to class and know the material it's hard to fail. take the class, you wont regret it! You do have to study (but... this should be the point of Uni, right&#63) The class is interesting and there are a lot of examples from real life. Definitely worth gettin up early -) ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    ATTENDANCE MANDITORY, graded on in class quiz that aren't announced.4 exams including the final,she drops the lowest exam score. She was passionate about micro, so when she was lecturing, everything was very organized and clear. She's a great teacher, I highly recommend her. I'm a pre-nursing major and my grade was so dependent on this class: pulled off an A with countless flashcards and a study group. really interesting, make sure you go to class so you get a real understanding of course material. Really interesting, and a great lecturer. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    clear and organized during lectures. She is hard if you don't go to the class. I recommend if you take her that you go to every class cause every midterm is made up of the notes she gives during her lectures. The tests aren't hard as long as you attend class and take ALL the notes. I recommend her! Assignments are easy, tests are straightforward. She is an awesome lady. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Govindan is a tough professor and teaches a pretty tough subject. The class is hard if you don't go to or pay attention in class. I'm a pre-nursing major and I had an okay time in this class. Do extra credit when she offers it and stay on top of online assignments. You'll be okay :) Because of her I have developed a whole new passion for microbiology! She covers the material very well and is super helpful if you see her in her office hours. She prepares you for her exams as well, just go to class. If you do poorly you have no one to blame but yourself. I am not a morning person, but she made 8am fun! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Best teacher ever :) Take the time to talk to her if you need help, and ask questions whenever you're confused. I think the above critics didn't do so well because they didn't study enough for the class, which is fairly challenging to begin with. Usually I do not like Biology but she made it interesting whenever I had extra questions, she would answer them. She is very knowledgeable. She is fair on her tests because I overheard a student complain that he made a mistake and asked the professor went and ask him the material and he knew it. Her tests are no ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    very detailed. pay attention and take good notes during class, and study lecture notes for midterms and final. attendance isn't mandatory, but attending class will make your life easier, exams are based off of lecture. offers some extra credit. wonderful professor, totally recommend her! Lecture is clear, she is very detailed. take notes on everything. after an hour, it could get boring. 3 midterms and one final. a few quizzes and a lot of readings. lab was fun, a lot of work though for only one unit. gives quizzes often, checks lab book progress twice, group project, attendance. key: study & memorize! ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    I was in her lecture and lab. she tests were soley based on her lecture outlines. as long as you pay attention and print out the outlines, you can totally get an A ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    Brinda is a wonderful teacher. She is one of the nicest professers thus far. Study weeks in advance it WILL help, don't miss lecture if you aren't accustomed to this subject She's a bit monotoned but you'll get used to it. I actually learned a lot from this class and the info is helpful in many ways in your everyday life. I got a B+ and i'm damn proud of it ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    What a GREAT teacher. Felt as if she knew what she was talking about. Go to class for extra points. Study guides were very helpful, but she was about critical thinking to get to the answers. She gives you the tools to figure out a question, but not the answer itself. Tests were pretty decent, especially if you put in the effort to study. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She is an amazing teacher. Clear cut on everything. Go to her office hours and she'll help out tremendously. I can sit through her lectures and feel bad if I miss a class. She is always there to help you if you pursue it. I can't think of anything negative about her. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She's a really good teacher, very organized, and lectures are very detailed and fast. Attend her office hours because you are not going to understand. Please do not take if it's not for your major. There's 3 midterms, and 1 final. Try to do all the extra credit she gives out. Her exams are all conceptual so studying is a must. Go to class and take down notes and you should do fine. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    This class was ok. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Dr. Govindan is really great, honestly. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    I had Dr. Govindan for both lecture and lab and although her tests and quizzes are rather difficult, if you go to class and take good notes, you should be able to pass her tests without any problems. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    This class is very interesting, just extremely hard. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    the best class i have ever taken @ sfstate. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    This professor is a great professor. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    This is one of the best classes I have ever taken. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    all of her lectures were clear and interesting. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Make sure you go to class EVERY time and pay attention even though it means being there at 8 in the morning. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    She knows her subject material and is very friendly and down to earth. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 3/5
    Vital things students should know: STUDY GUIDES ARE NOTHING LIKE EXAMS, SO MUCH READING, SO MUCH HOMEWORK. GO TO LECTURE! Basically her notes are the test. Know your stuff and you will be fine! She gives extra credit and does online quizzes, so if you aren't lazy and put in a moderate amount of work you will be fine. I recommend her :) Hard to pay attention at 8 in the morning. Gives extra credit, online homework, 3 test, 1 final. Note test are super hard, and based on lecture. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    She is an okay teacher, she really knows her stuff. fully understand what she lectures in class and you will ace the exams.the readings only take up a few questions on the exams. grading scale is a bit curved. she seems intimidating when u approach her so i always email her. ** the new Learnsmart online work is a pain in the butt. Be prepared to live in uncertainty and not know your grade the whole sem because she doesn't use ilearn to update grades. You wont pass if you dont show up because her lectures are heavy and makes you do random flashcards to see if youre there ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    She is a great teacher, you just have to pay attention in class. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    exams are based on in-class notes so go to class and take good notes. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    She seems to know her material however, cannot answer questions students have. Her tests are always unpredictable and she doesnt offer much outside help. Her lectures are so boring that usually half the class will fall asleep or not go anymore. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 1/5
    She crams a lot into lectures and most of the time it doesnt make sense. The class is difficult and she does not grade on a curve. You will write 4+ pages of notes a class, but depend on your book cause they wont make sense anyway. I will say I learned a lot, but not worth it. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    Crams as much as possible into lectures, lacks organization, lecture notes are online but not helpful, tests difficult (class average always 60-64%). ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    stay on track if you take him ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    If you're a computer science major, ---->DO NOT TAKE SOSNICK<-----. His curriculum is too easy, which ends up costing you in CSC220. He hands out A's like candy, so don't expect to have 220 in the bag if this course is a piece of cake. If you aren't a CS major, take this class because it's an absolute joke and an easy A. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She is such a nice professor I highly recommended. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 2/5
    Everything was in the book and if you missed just one thing then it's going to haunt you. Same thing with the in class films and presentations. The group work was pointless rather than just a lecture base class it was also group base which is useless unless someone from the group has something to say about the content. Just feed us content instead. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    She is wonderful! She really knows what she's talking about and she makes everyone to participate even though you do not want to. Her class is pretty interesting and she really makes you think and you learn so many things. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 5/5
    She gives helpful lectures and power points. Homework before lecture days. She even posts study guides online for exams. It is easy to get an A if you study a lot before the exams. ...Continue reading

  • Class rating 4/5
    Dope I would definitely take his class again ...Continue reading